I’m excited to post this interview/article on apps and Nicholas Callaway that I’ve written especially for the Metro NYC SCBWI digital newsletter!  They are posting it today as well I believe.  I’ve written articles for this chapter for years (I lived for most of my life in CT) for their ILLUSTRATORS CORNER, and now that they’ve gone digital with the newletter, I’m happy to still be included.  You can read all the other articles about our industry on my website by clicking on the ARTICLE PAW roll over.


……And I do mean “today!” 

A month ago I had the pleasure of meeting and interviewing the inspiring Nicholas Callaway of Callaway Digital Arts, in their wonderful historic building (open sunny spaces using old bricks and beams) in the South Street Sea Port area of New York City.  Our subject, of course, was the newly emerging industry of app development and other digital offerings.  As an artist agent, this is a thrilling but difficult area to encourage my artists to experiment in.  There is normally no upfront money…it’s all shared revenue once the project begins making money.  I’m afraid I can not tell you what that will be either!  The percentage of revenue from profits is negotiated per project…and a lot goes into figuring out that appropriate number.  Many projects are earning $.99, $3.99, $10.99 or FREE. The upfront costs to the publisher for the production of these complex interactive “enhanced narratives” is substantial to begin with.  You can see the problems if money is your objective.

 Don’t get discouraged however!  It is a most exciting field and certainly changing and growing as I write.  If this is appealing to you, and your ideas tend to run in the interactive direction, this just might be for you! Nicholas mentioned that the one thing to look out for now in negotiating the rights of your traditional book projects is to try to “carve out” the rights to the three digital areas a bit more than you might normally if you see APP potential:-e-books (more linear), Enhanced e-books (limited activities), and Interactive Rights for the more advanced APP projects.  Be sure the publishing company plans on using these rights if they want to hold onto  them.  Try to limit the time frame that they will have to use the digital rights before they revert back to you. (possibly one year after print date.) 

 One way this industry might prove quite money making is in the ‘e-commerce’ it naturally creates and develops.  It’s a “long term view” as Nicholas says.  He talked about the opportunities starting with the story, but then there may be so many other purchases related to the subject of the app.  The connection is made!  “The trick is to keep the consumer engaged.”  The necessary updates for the  interactive details is an extra cost for the publisher, but also another opportunity to engage and interest the consumer.  Nicholas likened it to a series in a traditional publishers list.  Each new book in the series further engages the reader and makes it more likely that they will come back for the next book in the series.  With apps the content is always evolving, changing and updating.  This in kind makes the opportunities for further e-commerce new and profitable as well. “Digital media lends itself to this…bringing people back.” 

 As to HOW to present an app idea to an app publisher, it is also fairly wide open. You might wish to ask for a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) signing before presenting an idea.  This is the ‘land of ideas’, and it’s hard to protect yourself completely. A NDA can present problems for the publisher, as Nicolas pointed out. It’s possible they have a ‘like’ idea in the works, and if they signed your NDA unknowing, it could prevent them from further development!  I felt very trusting and presented four ideas from four artists while there, and two were kept for consideration.  Both were in an attractive, traditional book dummy format that Nicholas could hold and flip through in his office, but I later sent them to him digitally. ( app stories do not have to be in a 32 page format of course) Both also then had written ideas as to how the story could be enhanced to offer many areas of interaction:  with games, information, music, further learning areas, voices etc.   I was pleased we’d somehow fallen on an acceptable way to show our ideas. Nicholas then said and repeated that the artist/writer should always keep this quote in mind when thinking about the needs for this new industry:  “Character, Story, Play, Learning, Sharing (or ‘Community’ as he called it) all must come together in an APP.”  Now that about covers it ALL!                               ……Till tomorrow!

 Written 6/27/2011 by Christina A. Tugeau, Artist Agent

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